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Post by stickleback on May 4, 2011 17:33:09 GMT
Just to let you all know, there is a foreign guy, fishing the river I have seen him in the town stretch spinning, and near the A48 spinning, The first time I asked him to see his license he said he did not know he needed one so I informed him how and where to apply. Last night I found him near the A48, he said he now had a license (which he got from Cardiff) when I asked to see it, he said it was at home and did not know he had to have it with him when fishing. I informed him of the rules. This guy clearly does not have a license of any kind. He usually has a rook sack and very basic gear. As I am disabled I could not take any further action, and he soon disappeared after I had spoken to him.
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Post by chester on May 5, 2011 9:10:01 GMT
It sounds like the same guy I confronted last year in Newbridge Fields. I reported him to the EAW who didn't have anyone i the area at the time, but I think we just need to keep contacting them and say that this bloke is persistently disregarding any rules and regulations with regards to fishing.
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Post by rob on May 5, 2011 19:07:30 GMT
about time ea done some patrolling on the ogmore we pay all that money and they are never there they always used to it was well known years ago go poaching down the ogmore and you would end up in court ,no excuses about understaffed they could patroll it like they used to like everything else rip off britain
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Post by OAA on May 5, 2011 19:20:11 GMT
I would encourage any member who comes across this individual to contact the Association Bailiffs or myself. The confiscation of his gear will probably dicourage him in the future!
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Post by stickleback on May 6, 2011 10:51:22 GMT
Would it be possible to have more Private fishing signs put up ?
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Post by waddington on May 6, 2011 16:45:34 GMT
Would it be possible to have more Private fishing signs put up ? Unfortunately this assumes that the people concerned actually care about trivial little things like the law . Extra signs are more likely to end up in the river than do any good. 99.9% of People fishing without a licence know very well what they are doing, in exactly the same way a car thief would not be detered by someone sticking a private property sign on their vehicle when leaving it. The fact is poachers are happy to stick two fingers up to the law and the only thing that works is when they are caught and punished properly. Without proper EA enforcement the reality is that poachers are more often than not getting away with it - a fact that they are very much aware of ! Phil
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Post by OAA on May 7, 2011 10:58:28 GMT
The Association is about to erect a new batch of signs along the river. However we have a problem in many areas in that the trees are either protected or on private land which makes it very difficult to erect signs. If signs were placed at ground level on posts, supports etc they would simply be vandalised.
Waddington is right in that it is unlikely that we would get a response from the Environment Agency for illegal angling. Therefore I would urge members to call our own Bailiffs who have been issued with seizure receipt books to confiscate tackle. This will act as a deterrent as would going to court.
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Post by daicydweli on May 7, 2011 20:04:01 GMT
This information was passed on to me today whilst i was in the vicinity of the last sighting today by a member of the commitee. Hopefully the rest of the team read the forum
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Post by sewinfly on May 8, 2011 18:48:38 GMT
The Association is about to erect a new batch of signs along the river. However we have a problem in many areas in that the trees are either protected or on private land which makes it very difficult to erect signs. If signs were placed at ground level on posts, supports etc they would simply be vandalised. Waddington is right in that it is unlikely that we would get a response from the Environment Agency for illegal angling. Therefore I would urge members to call our own Bailiffs who have been issued with seizure receipt books to confiscate tackle. This will act as a deterrent as would going to court. Is the club sure they can confiscate tackle from a member of the public ? if they refuse to hand the tackle over I cant see how you can take it off them. Once you man handle the person you could be on a charge for assault. Like the OAA, the FTAC had a meeting with Steve Barker AND IT SEEMED TO US THE POWERS OF AN ANGLING CLUB IS NEXT TO NOTHING ! You can ask them to leave but if they dont you cannot man handle them. Last week we kicked the same guy off the Taff, 2 days in a row. Please let me know if you have some info that maybe of use to our club. sewinfly................
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Post by rob on May 9, 2011 12:03:07 GMT
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Post by OAA on May 9, 2011 18:33:10 GMT
Sewinfly,
The Association has confiscated tackle on numerous occasions. Engaging in a breach of the peace is a seperate matter.
The Association is usually backed up by the police who from personal experience have been happy to attend in the past. This also prevents a false neame and address which the leaves the door open for a prosecution.
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Post by sewinfly on May 9, 2011 19:01:37 GMT
Cheers
sewinfly.................
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Post by OAA on May 13, 2011 18:15:28 GMT
On sunday night some of our Association Bailiffs whilst out fishing stumbled across 4 individuals attempting to net the river at Merthyr Mawr during an incoming tide.
This incident is the highest classification incident on the Environment Agency's response system. However despite calling the Environment Agency Hotline nobody from the Agency responded to this incident.
I would request that if any members come across such incidents on the river that they should not only call the Environment Agency Hotline but should also contact an officer of the Association.
It is vital that the Association is aware of all such incidents in order that we can make strong representations to the Agency regarding the lack of enforcement on our waters which is having a detrimental effect of fish stocks.
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Post by waddington on May 13, 2011 21:29:47 GMT
This incident is the highest classification incident on the Environment Agency's response system. However despite calling the Environment Agency Hotline nobody from the Agency responded to this incident. Absolutely disgusting service . No doubt the few enforcement staff the agency still employ were busy preparing risk assessments etc for the next bank holiday 'blitz' of the stocked local trout lakes . Poachers really are an inconsiderate lot. If only they confined their activities to accepted office hours, attached a note to their car with the exact grid reference of the pool they are netting to help the computer system out and when challenged held their hands up saying it's a fair cop guv . Despairing of it all! Phil
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Post by rob on May 14, 2011 0:14:29 GMT
as ive said before they are a f****** waste of time we should all say b******* to buying a salmon licence and all buy trout licences the club should scrap the rules that you can only fish at night wth full licence and you could guarantee they would soon put some baliffs on the river to do the job we are paying for now otherwise the river will end up being a waste of time to fish .poachers know theres no proper law enforcement on the river unlike years ago. they are taking the p*** lets give the ea something to think about before its too late
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